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    Hey everyone- I'm a musician for a living and a big topic for me naturally involves the skill involved of playing an instrument / music on a high level. This is not a judgement, but I play mostly in the jazz/improv world and I, as well as that arena, are more interested in the music itself as a creation- in other words, I'm not concerned with getting a "break" and playing with some big pop star as much as I am creating music at the level I want to create it at.

    Anyway- in the moment or listening to recordings, etc. - it is or seems very much a "fact" that I am not as good as some guys out there, much like in the world of athletics- you can run the mile in x minutes and the other guy can run it in much less time- and though I'm lucky to do it full time, the guys who play better- it can be hard for me to 'accept/allow' this and it can turn into me thinking I'm BS-ing myself..

    What are your thoughts on this- I guess it could be called releasing for skills / ability level at something. Thanks.
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    Releasing on memories and feelings of inadequacy

    Hi Evan,

    in answer to your question:

    Anyway- in the moment or listening to recordings, etc. - it is or seems very much a "fact" that I am not as good as some guys out there, much like in the world of athletics- you can run the mile in x minutes and the other guy can run it in much less time- and though I'm lucky to do it full time, the guys who play better- it can be hard for me to 'accept/allow' this and it can turn into me thinking I'm BS-ing myself..
    Triple welcoming is a powerful tool to use, when you find yourself in the situation that you are feeling 'they play better then me and I don't like it, and not liking this feeling'.
    • could you welcome whatever comes up; feelings, thoughts, images, sensations, pictures - allow yourself to welcome it as best you can
    • could you also welcome any beliefs or memories that come with that [and any memories with the same flavor/color/taste/sound]
    • could you welcome any want to change or fix it
    • could you welcome any aversion and/or attatchment with that
    • could you welcome any sense of identification, any sense this is about you - and any sense this is special or important in any way


    repeat this until it dissolves.

    You could also use a Holistic releasing process. This is a great tool to use whenever you notice you are stuck on 1 polarity - it allows you to become aware of the flipside of it.
    You might want to experiment with the right wording for you. A few examples:
    • could you allow yourself wanting to be the best musician as much as you do
    • could you allow yourself wanting to be the worst musician as much as you do

    • could you allow yourself to hate playing at the level you do as much as you do
    • could you allow yourself to love playing at the level you do as much as you do

    • could you allow yourself to feel as inadequate as you do, just for now
    • could you allow yourself to feel as adequate as you do


    and some 5th way questions at the end of you processes:
    • can you actually find the one who thinks they are inadequate of adequate? Or are both simply concepts appearing in or on the presence that you are?
    • could you allow yourself to rest as that which needs no inadequacy or adequacy in order to be?


    Enjoy. I heard artists say that they became better and better at their skill, the more they got themselves out of the way.

    Keep us posted!

    Clarie
    Last edited by Clarie van de Langenberg; 08-28-2010, 03:11 AM.
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    • #3
      Processes for musicians

      Anyway- in the moment or listening to recordings, etc. - it is or seems very much a "fact" that I am not as good as some guys out there, much like in the world of athletics- you can run the mile in x minutes and the other guy can run it in much less time- and though I'm lucky to do it full time, the guys who play better- it can be hard for me to 'accept/allow' this and it can turn into me thinking I'm BS-ing myself..

      What are your thoughts on this- I guess it could be called releasing for skills / ability level at something. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

      Hi Evan,
      Clarie already posted some great releasing processes. I guess she covered the "comparing yourself to others part" (that might be good to release on). I will focus more on the "get yourself out of the way"-part.

      I'm a musician too, I sing and I teach singing.
      Although there might be clear differences in the pitches somebody is able to get or in the speed in which he can play a scale, in the end that's not what is really touching in the music (in my experience )

      To me, music is closest to "that what simply is", "beingness", you name it. It's not about you, it's about the... music! But when "we" start to think in concepts and analyze, we limit at least the fullness of the sound and the emotional flow.

      One thing you can try:
      Are you?
      I think you simply know you are, right? Do you need a lable in order to be (Evan, Musician), ore are you without label?

      So, how does "simply being" feel compared to "being a musician" or "being Evan"?

      Now, play a note (best to start with one) on your instrument as "I am".

      Play one as "I am musician" or "I am Evan"

      Compare

      To make a long strory short, the more you get out of your way, (as Clarie wrote), the better the music will come through.

      So, you could simply release whatever comes up while you're practising or welcome what comes up while you are performing or rehearsing with others.

      Another thing that is fun to play with is to eleminate imaginary boundaries. When we are skilled musicians, we have loads of boundaries in our heads: Boundaries between notes, between us and the instrument, inhalation and playing, vibration of the sound and material of the instrument, vibration of the sound and body tissue, different body parts that participate, ourselves and other musicians... to be continued.

      You can play with noticing that all these discriminations are only concepts and let go of the one you are focusing on at the moment.

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      • #4
        Hi Jan,

        I LOVE this part you shared, very simple and effective!

        To me, music is closest to "that what simply is", "beingness", you name it. It's not about you, it's about the... music! But when "we" start to think in concepts and analyze, we limit at least the fullness of the sound and the emotional flow.

        One thing you can try:
        Are you?
        I think you simply know you are, right? Do you need a lable in order to be (Evan, Musician), ore are you without label?

        So, how does "simply being" feel compared to "being a musician" or "being Evan"?

        Now, play a note (best to start with one) on your instrument as "I am".

        Play one as "I am musician" or "I am Evan"


        Compare

        To make a long strory short, the more you get out of your way, (as Clarie wrote), the better the music will come through.
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        • #5
          Evan,

          And also...Let go of your feelings about it and also practice, find a good teacher, refine your skills in the usual way --> take action!

          Susan
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          • #6
            Thanks all- excellent perspectives. I love the book "effortless mastery" by Kenny Werner which I was introduced to in highschool and brought me towards a lot of these concepts, I recommend that to any musicians as it will strongly resonate w/ them especially if they are into releasing- I've also gotten to play with him since and see that he really lives what he talks about when he plays.

            These are great angles of using the processes. Much of that thinking can still be quite distracting while I'm practicing, or at least not go as in depth and connected as I could be- constantly evaluating what I'm hearing, but not always in the objective, productive way- a lot of this has been amplified living in NYC and being part of performing/recording situations where there's an "am I good enough to be on this gig- look at all these better guys in town with better gigs" etc ! Comparison as you said is a big one.

            I look forward to doing these processes more and seeing past what I know is really just a block- the way I see it as "just a fact, you sound like this and it's not at the same level as a master" - which only distracts unless the masters are used as positive inspiration. It is definitely true that for most of those masters it's more like a "channeling" which is getting out of the way-- and there are child prodigies etc. that can disprove the "logic" way of looking at things- you need to practice 9000000 hours until you can do x, sound like x, etc!

            Thanks again
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            • #7
              Thanks for sharing and keep us posted!

              enoy,
              Clarie
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Evan View Post
                Hey everyone- I'm a musician for a living and a big topic for me naturally involves the skill involved of playing an instrument / music on a high level. This is not a judgement, but I play mostly in the jazz/improv world and I, as well as that arena, are more interested in the music itself as a creation- in other words, I'm not concerned with getting a "break" and playing with some big pop star as much as I am creating music at the level I want to create it at.

                Anyway- in the moment or listening to recordings, etc. - it is or seems very much a "fact" that I am not as good as some guys out there, much like in the world of athletics- you can run the mile in x minutes and the other guy can run it in much less time- and though I'm lucky to do it full time, the guys who play better- it can be hard for me to 'accept/allow' this and it can turn into me thinking I'm BS-ing myself..

                What are your thoughts on this- I guess it could be called releasing for skills / ability level at something. Thanks.
                Its great that you are a musician . I love music and i love to share and get view about the music world . Can you post here something more about your creations .

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